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HawkofStorms · Feb 29, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Longasc

It is quite optimist that all ANet designers have a free day where they sift through the forum to read all pearls of ultimate wisdom posted here.

The developers don't. Galie does. That's part of her job as a PR rep, to keep in touch with the community's opinions.

Diddy bow · Mar 01, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Well any update they do is either common sense or some random crap thats just "WTF?"

So im guessing no :S

Antheus · Mar 01, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by Musheen

Um, I have been reading through the thread, that's why I started it.

I'll pick up your concluding thought in the other thread:

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The community has a right to bring ideas forward, and if enough interest is shown let them decide if it's worth it.

The community has opportunity to present their ideas. Anet evaluating them is not part of that. Players however are given opportunity to do so.

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you can tell Anet there "is" over 1000 people when they all sign it.

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. No feature has ever been added because of a petition. If you get every single guru poster to sign it, that is merely representative of hard-core crowd, or 5-10% of population.

All empiric data gathered to date on social side of MMOs indicates that forum visitors are not representative statistic.

Perhaps you were expecting something else - Sardelac isn't a poll on "what will we add into next patch".

Auction house and hair dresser likely have more than 10,000 signatures. The response given by Anet was: "Will not be added due to technical reasons".

So that makes ideas a pipe dream. There have been over 15,000 ideas posted in Sardelac alone. Me, and several others have provided multiple examples of completely player proposed ideas that not only made it to the game, but changed it to the core.

Do player suggestions matter - yes.
Do polls matter - no.

The ideas are there to give designers ideas. It's not about idea popularity, but how could it improve gameplay.

An example - Ursan is very hated. Yet it improved gameplay for many, and will not be changed. Same for titles. But, there's a design direction that game follows. Nobody likes nerfs, but all realize that some form of balance must exist. Nobody likes "broken" economy, yet the economy in GW is fine.

And most importantly - people will disagree with you simply because they can. It's not about their right - it's about opportunity and ability to do so.

MMOs are more than a game. Forums and fan sites are included into that. It's all part of the game. The flaming, trolling, and all that belongs with it. That is the true end-game.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 01, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Sardelac equals information. Information equals knowledge. Knowledge equals power. Power equals energy. Energy equals matter.
Hence, Sardelac equals matter.
QED.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 01, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

I think it gives people a place to make suggestions, whether they are read or not, people feel the need to spurt out things they think are important....that forum offers the place to do it.....otherwise riverside would be full of posts about things that we can do nothing about.

Snow Bunny · Mar 01, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Sardelac Sanitarium lowers your IQ 20 points every time you visit it. Especially the Concept Class threads.

Jake_Steel · Mar 01, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

It only matters for those wishing to ego stroke their e-peen and feel important about some very unimportant things.

Malice Black · Mar 01, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

They changed the title...still Sardelac is full of eejits too.

Earn fame in Alliance Battles!!

:sigh:

Inde · Mar 01, 2008, 03:46 AM // 03:46

I do believe this question was answered, flamed, QQ'ed, trashed, [insert other adjectives].